David Thomas, 1850–

Name: David /Thomas/
Given names: David
Surname: Thomas

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Note	David Thomas 1850 David Thomas was born in 1850 at Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales although his birth was registered at nearby Aberystwyth. His parents were David Thomas, b.1815 at b.Llanbadarnfaun, Cardiganshire, Wales, and Elizabeth Thomas (nee Morgans) b.1816 at Elerch, Cardiganshire, Wales He married Mary Evans in 1872 They had at least three children: David Thomas, b.9 Dec 1875 in Borth, Aberystwyth, Wales John Thomas, b.1876 in Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Mary Thomas, b.1879 in Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales There may have been other children (see below) His death may have been in 1899, but this is far from certain. REFERENCES 1850 Birth UK index of births 1850 Aberystwyth , Jan-Mar, vol 27, page 19 David Thomas 1851 UK Census HO107, Piece 2486, Folio179, Page5 Tre-Taliesin, Llancynfelin, Wales David Thomas, head, married, age 36, Farm Labourer, born: Llanbadarnfaun, Cardiganshire, Elizabeth Thomas, wife, married, age 35, Farm Labourers Wife, born: Elerch, Cardiganshire Jane Thomas, Daughter, unmaried, age 6, Farm Labourers Daughter, born: Llancynfelin, Cardiganshire Margaret Thomas, Daughter, unmarried, age 4, Farm Labourers Daughter, born: Llancynfelin, Cardiganshire David Thomas, Son, unmarried, age 1, Farm Labourers Son, born: Llancynfelin, Cardiganshire [2] 1861 UK Census Taliesin, Wales Elizabeth Thomas, Widow, 48, born Cardiganshire Margaret Thomas, Daughter, 13, born Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire David Thomas, Son, 10, born Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire [3] 1872 Marriage UK index of marriages 1872 Aberystwyth, Oct-Dec, Vol 11b, Page 170 David Thomas Mary Evans [4] 1881 UK Census RG11, Piece 5562, Folio 137, Page 65 2 Gerlan, Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales. David Thomas, Head, married, 31, Labourer, born Taliesin, Cardigan Mary Thomas, Wife, married, 31, born Borth, Cardigan David Thomas, Son, 7, Scholar, born Borth, Cardigan. John Thomas, Son, 5, Scholar, born Taliesin, Cardigan. Mary Thomas, Daughter, 2, born Taliesin, Cardigan. [5] FUTURE RESEARCH Death The date of his death is uncertain, but I can't find him on the 1891 census. There is a death index dated 1899 but this is not certain. 1899 UK Death index Sept 1899 Aberystwith, vol 11b, page 37 Thomas David Aged 51 FUTURE RESEARCH Unconfirmed information from a relative who has since died Other children may be: James (Jimmy) William Evan Oswald POSSIBLE CONFUSIONS Tre in welsh means 'town' or 'homestead'. Confusion sometimes arises because the word appears regularly in front of the name of towns and villages and sometimes becomes incorporated into the name of the town itself. One example of this is the town of Taliesin, or Tre-Taliesin. Taliesin and Tre-Taliesin are the same place. POSSIBLE CONFUSIONS Llangynfelyn, Llancynfelyn and Llancynfelin are all the same place. Llangynfelyn is a village to the North of Aberystwyth, Wales, but the name is also used for the parish of Llangynfelyn. The parish of Llangynfelyn includes the villages of Llangynfelyn, Tre-Taliesin, Tre'rddôl, Craig-y-Penrhyn and Goitre. http://www.llangynfelyn.org David Thomas 1850

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David Thomas 1850

David Thomas was born in 1850 at Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales although his birth was registered at nearby Aberystwyth.

His parents were David Thomas, b.1815 at b.Llanbadarnfaun, Cardiganshire, Wales, and Elizabeth Thomas (nee Morgans) b.1816 at Elerch, Cardiganshire, Wales

He married Mary Evans in 1872

They had at least three children:

David Thomas, b.9 Dec 1875 in Borth, Aberystwyth, Wales
John Thomas, b.1876 in Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales
Mary Thomas, b.1879 in Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales

There may have been other children (see below)

His death may have been in 1899, but this is far from certain.

REFERENCES

1850 Birth UK index of births 1850 Aberystwyth , Jan-Mar, vol 27, page 19 David Thomas

1851 UK Census HO107, Piece 2486, Folio179, Page5 Tre-Taliesin, Llancynfelin, Wales

David Thomas, head, married, age 36, Farm Labourer, born: Llanbadarnfaun, Cardiganshire,
Elizabeth Thomas, wife, married, age 35, Farm Labourers Wife, born: Elerch, Cardiganshire
Jane Thomas, Daughter, unmaried, age 6, Farm Labourers Daughter, born: Llancynfelin, Cardiganshire
Margaret Thomas, Daughter, unmarried, age 4, Farm Labourers Daughter, born: Llancynfelin, Cardiganshire
David Thomas, Son, unmarried, age 1, Farm Labourers Son, born: Llancynfelin, Cardiganshire [2]

1861 UK Census Taliesin, Wales

Elizabeth Thomas, Widow, 48, born Cardiganshire
Margaret Thomas, Daughter, 13, born Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire
David Thomas, Son, 10, born Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire [3]

1872 Marriage UK index of marriages 1872 Aberystwyth, Oct-Dec, Vol 11b, Page 170 David Thomas Mary Evans [4]

1881 UK Census RG11, Piece 5562, Folio 137, Page 65 2 Gerlan, Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales.

David Thomas, Head, married, 31, Labourer, born Taliesin, Cardigan
Mary Thomas, Wife, married, 31, born Borth, Cardigan
David Thomas, Son, 7, Scholar, born Borth, Cardigan.
John Thomas, Son, 5, Scholar, born Taliesin, Cardigan.
Mary Thomas, Daughter, 2, born Taliesin, Cardigan. [5]

FUTURE RESEARCH

Death The date of his death is uncertain, but I can't find him on the 1891 census. There is a death index dated 1899 but this is not certain.

1899 UK Death index Sept 1899 Aberystwith, vol 11b, page 37 Thomas David Aged 51

FUTURE RESEARCH

Unconfirmed information from a relative who has since died

Other children may be:

James (Jimmy) William Evan Oswald

POSSIBLE CONFUSIONS

Tre in welsh means 'town' or 'homestead'.

Confusion sometimes arises because the word appears regularly in front of the name of towns and villages and sometimes becomes incorporated into the name of the town itself.

One example of this is the town of Taliesin, or Tre-Taliesin. Taliesin and Tre-Taliesin are the same place.

POSSIBLE CONFUSIONS

Llangynfelyn, Llancynfelyn and Llancynfelin are all the same place.

Llangynfelyn is a village to the North of Aberystwyth, Wales, but the name is also used for the parish of Llangynfelyn.

The parish of Llangynfelyn includes the villages of Llangynfelyn, Tre-Taliesin, Tre'rddôl, Craig-y-Penrhyn and Goitre.

http://www.llangynfelyn.org

David Thomas 1850

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Family with parents
father	Links Birth: 1815 — Llanbadarnfaun, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: 1842 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales Burial: June 15, 1852 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Family with spouse Elizabeth Morgan Jane Thomas Margaret Thomas David Thomas David Thomas 1815–1852 Birth: 1815 — Llanbadarnfaun, Cardiganshire, Wales Burial: June 15, 1852 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales
mother	Links Birth: 1816 — Elerch, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: 1842 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Family with spouse David Thomas Jane Thomas Margaret Thomas David Thomas Elizabeth Morgan 1816– Birth: 1816 — Elerch, Cardiganshire, Wales Death:
Marriage	Marriage — 1842 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales
4 years elder sister	Links Birth: 1845 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Jane Thomas 1845– Birth: 1845 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales Death:
3 years elder sister	Links Birth: 1847 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Margaret Thomas 1847– Birth: 1847 — Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales Death:
4 years himself	Links Birth: 1850 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: 1872 — Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Family with spouse Mary Evans David Thomas John Thomas Mary Thomas David Thomas 1850– Birth: 1850 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Death:

Family with Mary Evans
himself	Links Birth: 1850 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: 1872 — Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Family with spouse Mary Evans David Thomas John Thomas Mary Thomas David Thomas 1850– Birth: 1850 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Death:
wife	Links Birth: 1851 — Borth, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: 1872 — Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Marriage: Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Family with spouse David Thomas David Thomas John Thomas Mary Thomas Mary Evans 1851– Birth: 1851 — Borth, Cardiganshire, Wales Death:
Marriage	Marriage — 1872 — Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales
Marriage	Marriage — —
4 years son	Links Birth: December 9, 1875 — Borth, Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Occupation: Soldier — from 1892 to 1902 Marriage: December 31, 1902 — Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales Occupation: Police Officer — from 1902 to 1915 Occupation: Soldier — from 1915 to 1918 Occupation: Police Officer — from 1918 to 1925 Retirement: August 31, 1925 — Colwyn Bay, Denbighshire, Wales Death: February 13, 1948 — Colwyn Bay, Denbighshire, Wales Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Family with spouse Lillian Clutton Lilian Thomas Doris Myfanwy Thomas David Thomas 1875–1948 Birth: December 9, 1875 — Borth, Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Death: February 13, 1948 — Colwyn Bay, Denbighshire, Wales
13 months son	Links Birth: 1876 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree John Thomas 1876– Birth: 1876 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Death:
4 years daughter	Links Birth: 1879 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Death: Links Hourglass chart Pedigree Mary Thomas 1879– Birth: 1879 — Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales Death: