David Thomas, 18751948 (age 72 years)

Name
David Thomas
Given names
David
Surname
Thomas
Marriage

Parish Church, Wrexham, in the County of Denbigh. December 31st 1902, David Thomas, 27, Bachelor, Police Constable, 29 Lea Road, Father's Name: David Thomas, Slate-mason Lillian Clutton, 20, Spinster, Domestic Servant, Caia Road, Father's Name: William Clutton, Foreman at Gasworks

Retirement

Presented to Sergeant David Thomas Late of Denbighshire Constabulary on the occasion of his retirement. On behalf of the residents of Colwyn Bay & District, we desire to place on record our high appreciation of your valuable services whilst in this district. Where you have always been found to be a most capable courteous & tactful Officer, not alone have you discharged your police duties to the complete satisfaction of all concerned, but you have also served your King & Country, in the Boar War, and when the appeal for Instructors in the Great War went forth you nobly responded to the call, Salonica, Egypt, & Turkey being the scenes of your labours, as well as assisting to form the 19th 21st & 22nd Battalions of the Royal Welch Fusiliers. In your retirement you take with you our hearty good wishes for your future happiness, and we trust you will long be spared to enjoy your well earned rest. Signed on behalf of the subscribers. Richard Lumley Chairman Jim L. Francis Hon Treasurer E. Birthell Hon Secretary 31 August 1925

DeathView

Colwyn Bay Cemetary Headstone reads:

David Thomas and Lilian Thomas. David Thomas died 13 Feb 1948, aged 72, also his beloved wife Lilian died 13 March 1952, aged 69.

In loving memory “Reunited”.

Note

David Thomas 1875-1948

**David Thomas birth was registered in Borth, Aberystwyth, Wales in 1875 and the UK National Register of 1939 gives his date of birth as 09 December 1875.

His parents were David Thomas born at Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales in 1850 and Mary Evans born in 1850, who married at Aberystwyth in 1872.

His paternal grand-parents were David Thomas born at Llanbadarn, Cardiganshire, Wales in 1815 and Elizabeth Morgans, born at Elerch, Cardiganshire, Wales in 1816, who married at Llangynfelyn Parish Church in 1842.

David Thomas is mentioned in the 1881 UK Census at Llanllyfni, Caernarvon as a 7 year old scholar, together with a younger brother and sister.

He served in the South Wales Borderers from aged 18 in 1892, serving in South Africa during Boar War.

On leaving the army at the end of the Second Boar War, he became a Police Officer in the Denbighshire Constabulary serving at Wrexham and then at Llandulas.

He married Lillian Cluton at Wrexham, Denbighshire, North Wales, in 1902 and they had two daughters:

  1. Lilian Winifred Thomas, b.15 Oct 1903 in Wrexham.
  2. Doris Myfanwy Thomas, b.27 Mar 1908 in Wrexham

During the First World War he returned to the Army and helped to form the 19th, 21st and 22nd Battalions of the Royal Welch Fusiliers, before serving as Company Sergeant Major of a newly formed 6th Garrison Battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers in Egypt, Salonica and Turkey.

He returned to his police duties after the First World War, retiring as a police sergeant in 1925.

At the time of the 1939 UK National Register he was living with his wife at Bodafon, Abergele, Denbighshire, and described as a police pensioner.

He died on 13 February 1948 and is buried in Colwyn Bay Cemetary, in North Wales.

References

1881 UK Census. RG11/5562 folio 137 page 65, 03 Apr 1881. 2 Gerlan, Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales.

  • David Thomas, Head, married, 31, Labourer, born Taliesin, Cardigan.
  • Mary Thomas, Wife, married, 31, born Borth, Cardigan.
  • David Thomas, Son, 7, Scholar, born Borth, Cardigan.
  • John Thomas, Son, 5, Scholar, born Taliesin, Cardigan.
  • Mary Thomas, Daughter, 2, Scholar, born Taliesin, Cardigan.

Boar War

The following information from the Royal Regiment of Wales appears to be his service record, but it cannot be identified with absolute certainty as there were several David Underwood's in the same regiment.

3941 Private David Thomas, 2nd Battalion South Wales Borderers. Born at Holy Trinity, Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Trade – labourer. Enlisted at Aldershot 08/03/1892 aged 18 years. Posted from South Africa to England time expired. Queens South Africa medal with clasps (Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal). King’s South Africa medal with clasps (1901, 1902)

1902 Marriage UK index of marriages 1902 Wrexham, Oct-Dec, Vol 11b, Page 507 Underwood, David Clutton, Lillian.

UK Certificate of Marriage Parish Church, Wrexham, in the County of Denbigh. December 31st 1902 David Thomas, 27, Bachelor, Police Constable, 29 Lea Road, Wrexham. Father's Name: David Thomas, Slate-mason. Lillian Clutton, 20, Spinster, Domestic Servant, Caia Road, Wrexham. Father's Name: William Clutton, Foreman at Gasworks.

UK Census 1911 Wern Cottage, Llandulas, Abergele. Denbighshire Wales

  • David Thomas, head, aged 35, married, police constable, Denbigh constabulary, born: Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire.
  • Lilian Thomas, wife, aged 29, married, born: Wrexham, Denbighshire.
  • Lilian Thomas, daughter, aged 7, school, born: Denbighshire.
  • Doris Thomas, daughter, aged 4, school, born: wrexham, Denbighshire.

First World War

During the First World War he returned to the Army and helped to form the 19th, 21st and 22nd Battalions of the Royal Welch Fusiliers, before serving as Company Sergeant Major of a newly formed 6th Garrison Battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliersin Egypt, Salonica and Turkey.

The following information was obtained from contacts at the 'Royal Welsh Fusiliers 1900-1918' Facebook Page.

David Thomas RWF 61944. Medal Roll shows Company Sergeant Major who served overseas with the 6th Garrison Battalion.

The above service number was allocated towards the end of September 1916 in a block of those allocated to the 6th Garrison Battalion upon it's formation in Sept 1916. If, as he is known to have done, he assisted in the formation of the 19th, 21st, and 22nd Battalion in early 1915, he should have had a much lower service number.

There is an explanation for this though.

The 19th Battalion was formed and trained in Deganwy in March 1915, but transferred to Aldershot in September 1915.

The and 21st and 22nd Battalions trained at Kinmel Park, Rhyl, but both battalions were re-designated out of the Royal Welch Fusiliers and into newly formed Training Reserve Battalions on 1st Sept 1916.

The 20ths Battalion became part of the 63rd Training Battalion, the 22nd Battalion became part of the 64th Training Battalion (both part of the 14th Reserve Brigade).

All the men in those Battalions (including David Thomas) would have received new service numbers at the time they left the Royal Welch Fusiliers.

Towards the end of September 1916 David Thomas was then posted back to the Royal Welch Fusiliers to become Company Sergeant Major of a newly formed Royal Welch Fusiliers 6th Garrison Battalion.

On formation of that Garrison Battalion everyone was issued with new service numbers, and David Thomas was issued with the number 61944.

So his service record appears to be as follows:

  1. 19th Battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers - Unknown Royal Welch Fusiliers Service number issued.
  2. 21st/22nd Battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers - Service number unknown.
  3. The 21st/22nd Battalion of Royal Welch Fusiliers become Training Reserve Battalion - Unknown Training Battalion service number issued.
  4. 6th Garrison Battalion of Royal Welch Fusiliers formed - New service number of 61944 issued.

The 6th Garrison Battalion was formed at Aintree on 18 September 1916, and moved to Egypt in January 1917, remaining there throughout the war.

From arrival it was based at the Citadel, Cairo.

The battalion arrived at Salonika on 1 November 1918.

After a brief stay at Salonika the battalion embarked for Bulgaria, landing at Dede-Agach on 10 November, and was employed in guarding the Salonika-Constantinople railway.

Police

He returned to his police duties after the First World War, retiring as a police sergeant in 1925. On retirement he was awarded a presentation certificate that reads as follows:

*Presented to Sergeant David Thomas Late of Denbighshire Constabulary on the occasion of his retirement. On behalf of the residents of Colwyn Bay & District, we desire to place on record our high appreciation of your valuable services whilst in this district. Where you have always been found to be a most capable courteous & tactful Officer, not alone have you discharged your police duties to the complete satisfaction of all concerned, but you have also served your King & Country, in the Boar War, and when the appeal for Instructors in the Great War went forth you nobly responded to the call, Salonica, Egypt, & Turkey being the scenes of your labours, as well as assisting to form the 19th 21st & 22nd Battalions of the Royal Welch Fusiliers. In your retirement you take with you our hearty good wishes for your future happiness, and we trust you will long be spared to enjoy your well earned rest.

Signed on behalf of the subscribers. Richard Lumley Chairman. Jim L. Francis Hon Treasurer. E. Birthell Hon Secretary. 31 August 1925. *

1939 UK National Register Bodafon, Abergele, Denbighshire. 29 September 1939

  • **Thomas, David. born 09 Dec 1875, Married. Police Pensioner.
  • Clutton, Lillian, born 07 May 1882, Married, Unpaid Domestic Duties.

1948 Death Headstone Colwyn Bay Cemetery David Thomas died 13 Feb 1948, aged 72, also his beloved wife Lilian died 13 March 1952, aged 69. In loving memory “Reunited”.

David Thomas 1875-1948

Family with parents
father
1850
Birth: 1850Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales
Death:
mother
1851
Birth: 1851Borth, Cardiganshire, Wales
Death:
Marriage
Marriage: 1872Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales
Marriage
Marriage:
4 years
himself
18751948
Birth: December 9, 1875Borth, Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales
Death: February 13, 1948Colwyn Bay, Denbighshire, Wales
13 months
younger brother
1876
Birth: 1876Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales
Death:
4 years
younger sister
1879
Birth: 1879Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales
Death:
Family with Lillian Clutton
himself
18751948
Birth: December 9, 1875Borth, Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales
Death: February 13, 1948Colwyn Bay, Denbighshire, Wales
wife
18821952
Birth: May 7, 1882Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
Death: March 13, 1952Colwyn Bay, Denbighshire, Wales
Marriage
Marriage: December 31, 1902Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
10 months
daughter
19031988
Birth: October 15, 1903Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
Death: October 1, 1988Abergele, Denbighshire, Wales
5 years
daughter
19081989
Birth: March 27, 1908Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
Death: 1989Blackpool, Lancashire, England